Proxion Governorship Update Thread - Curtis Style

Hello everyone! I’ve been doing status updates in Proxion’s chat for a bit now, figured I might as well move it to a forum thread.

We finished the LM last Saturday, as I’m sure you’re aware, which is only 2 weeks and 1 day from when I was elected as governor of Proxion, and was the third LM in the game!

That leaves us in a good position at the moment, with LM in use, settlers and pioneers growing at a good rate, minimal taxes, and a bit of time before people can tech into the more advanced fabs needed for most POPI buildings or a COGC.

As a result, I’d like to take this time to examine the numbers surrounding taxation and LM contributions.

And apparently I haven’t posted on the forums enough to be able to add images, so I guess I’ll just post raw numbers:

Tax income: Time Dividend (CIS): Corp Size Income per allotment:
3/7/21 19:00 170 21 3570
3/14/21 19:00 250 22 5500
Proxion Investment (FIO): Purpose Item Amount Value (per item) Value (per ocassion)
LM BDE 8 2100 16800
LM TRU 10 500 5000
LM BTA 8 1600 12800
LM LBH 8 3000 24000
Proxion Investment (Others): Entity Purpose Item Amount Value (per item) Value (per ocassion)
Dover (MKM) LM BSE 12 1500 18000
Total Tax Income: 9070
Total Investment (FIO) 58600
Total Investment (Others) 18000

As you can see, FIO Corp contributed almost 6.5x what it took in in taxes (though admittedly there will be at least one more tax statement before the term ends).

Dover’s 12 BSE contribution was quite appreciated as well :slight_smile:.

FIO Corp is committed to investing in Proxion’s infrastructure, all while maintaining minimal taxes. We hope to use the economic engine of FIO for the benefit of all.

Thank you, and see you in the next update!

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Great update @Curtis6566, and welcome to the forums! (And double congrats on the formatting).

I can tell you now, even on max taxes, you won’t be getting your investment back if you treat materials invested at market value. However, if you look at making deals for cost value products (which is easy when working in corp), only then may you actually see a way to balance the books.

I look forward to working together, for a better Proxion.

Hello all!
I apologize for missing last week’s update, I normally do these as-needed on Wednesday’s, but last Wed was a 13 hour workday for me, and the rest of the week was almost as busy.

But I’ve been able to find the time today, so here’s a status update:

For now not much is being worked on at the moment, but tax income is ramping up!

The payment on 3/21 was only 9.7k (still a significant jump from the previous). The 3/28 payment was 25.5k, and the 4/4 payment was 30.5k.

That represents people’s growing usage of the LM, though I will admit to suspecting that FIO is disproportionately represented in the taxes, as it makes dozens of LM ads a day.

Currently, I see 3 options for the tax money:

  1. A Warehouse so that people can rent units and store goods in when trading, which would make Proxion more attractive to traders, as well as generating income for governmental use.
  2. Earmarking the tax money for an eventual COGC, which even though that would be multiple months away, is still likely to deplete multiple months worth of taxes to fund. Being able to fund a larger part of the COGC makes it more likely we’ll get one sooner.
  3. Saving it for POPI, though with Health and Safety are still at 100%, the only buildings that would help are higher tech, and players are literally not producing the prefabs for the necessary buildings yet.
    a. Additionally, a caveat to that: initiatives for higher tier pop typically are best stacked on speicific worlds, as only a subset of players will actually use them. So even with government-funded POPI infrastructure, Proxion might not ever maintain as sizable a tech population as certain other worlds better positioned for higher-tech resource needs, that several multiplanetary entities would be more willing to invest in.

If you have ideas for alternatives, or opinions about these options, feel free to post them, as I’d like to hear them!

I’ll likely hold a survey of the ideas (and any other promising suggestions) next week.

Thanks, and have a good week!

First, do you know roughly what percent of residents are on basic or paid accounts? (I know a lot of the louder members are, but given I’m not, it can’t be all of us.)

Next, is there any timeline for an ELP? (It’s needed for the electronics in the COGC, and requires R-fabs to make.) Relatedly, what program do we expect the COGC to run?

Last, we could subsize an expansion of production on something which is acting as a limiting factor for local development, but I don’t have any ideas on what that might be.

Hello sebsmith!

  1. No idea, I can incorporate that into the vote, though. If I had to take a ballpark guess, I’d say probably between 15-20, which is 1/4-1/3 of the population. This is based on my knowledge of the corps on Prox, who tend to be the main people with PRO.

  2. Currently there is no concrete timeframe on the ELP. FIOC is aiming to be among the first COGC-able corps, and we’re going to make our plan for the path to COGC this weekend, but COGC is going to be multiple months away. I’m unwilling to say more until I’ve been able to itemize the timeline, which I hopefully should have time to do this week.
    Additionally, qho gets the first COGCs is still being decided, but a commitment to using the tax money for the COGC by Proxion’s voterbase would ensure Prox gets it sooner than if they vote another priority.
    2.b. The program for the COGC would likely be left up to a vote, but most likely be for Agriculture, potentially with a splash of Eduction: Tech’s. Proxion is a world well suited to farming, but again this would likely by up to a vote.

  3. That indeed is an option, should people wish. I am open to suggesitons, as I have not seen an obvious blocker to resolve myself, aside from merely the general blocker of buildings gained from teching up. I had considered say proposing a WPL for PWO, but it’s looking like we already have an on-planet WPL from FIO which should soon have spare production available for purchase by residents, as well as another upcoming WPL from another individual on Prox, from what I hear. Both should be able to have plenty of PWO for sale, soon enough.
    .
    Additionally, while I am not opposed to spending on short-term initiatives to resolve Proxion blockers, they do mean less taxes for later infrastructure, as well as such initiatives feeling a bit sketchy - how is who gets the investment determined? And should the building be considered property of Proxion, or merely a one-time subsidy given to spur production? etc…

Still, thank you very much for your insightful questions!

The quick calculation I did seems to indicate that a Warehouse would cost about 143,000. Depending on how much money out of the 60 something thousand payments you still have on had, it seems likely that we could afford that in two to four weeks even if nobody contributes. If people contribute, you can get a better deal than market price from your corp, and all that money you mentioned is at your disposal, then getting a Warehouse could take less than 2 weeks.

If it’s going to be two or three months before we can get a COGC, depending on how much extra revenue the Warehouse gets us, it seems like we might be able to make a larger contribution to the COGC by getting the Warehouse first. (Or do the numbers not work out like that?)

you can hum

probably double that estimate of time :slight_smile:

Also WAR on a planet like proxion won’t bring in that much money

Alright, it’s been a week, and I promised to make a poll, so here it is:

Proxion residents, please take the time to skim the material and select your preferred option.

Note: the form will ask you to sign in to google before filling it out, this is an option google forms uses to ensure one submission per person, and does not actually send anyone any information. If for whatever reason, you don’t trust google forms, feel free to DM me your submission - WAR, POPI, COGC

(For those who need to DM me their poll instead of filling out the google form: WAR is cheap and short term constructable, like 2 weeks, and could increase trade and net Proxion government income, POPI is somewhat expensive and medium term constructable, like 2 months, and necessary for TEC, and COGC is very expensive and quite long term, like 3-5 months, but very good at increasing efficiency).

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Also just realized it’s been a bit since I posted tax income. I still haven’t needed / found the time to switch to one of the better sheets floating around, and I still can’t post pictures to the forum (don’t think I’ve made enough posts yet), so I’ll post it here as a table:

Tax income: Time Dividend (CIS):
3/21/21 19:00 9740
3/28/21 19:00 25500
4/4/21 19:00 30,570
4/11/21 19:00 33280
Total: 99090

Based on current taxes, we’d have money for a WAR in 0.5-1.5 weeks from time of posting, depending on the rates I’m able to work out.

A lot of the mats for a Wildlife Center (the POPI option) aren’t on the market yet, so working out rates for that is tricky, but it’d be a lot more, likely at least 3x more expensive, most likely. Of course this would be in a couple months time, so there’d be more taxes to cover it.

And a COGC would just be a ridiculous amount of money in a few months time.

Of course, the early poll results are leaning unanimously to the WAR, as I expected.