I’d prefer to see system where old population doesn’t shared between other bases, but only growth going to split between inhabitants. Leak of population required, but it can be dependent on activity rating, i.e. 0% for A and B, 10% for C, 25% for D-.
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Thanks for this great suggestion @Madnewmy!
As I stated in Discord yesterday the current workforce assignment is a simple round robin with the goal to distribute the WF evenly between all players. It obviously doesn’t account for WF stealing and other shortcomings.
I like your idea because it is independent of how much certain player contributes towards the POPI. I’d rather not take that into account because it would limit how the POPI upkeep will be paid for. If we leave that open we can have planets that are either supported fully by their governor, fully by the inhabitants or a mix.
I will present this idea to counterpoint once he is back from his vacation!
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I think it would help a lot too. It’s easy to see it as the larger/richer player being A and C in the example and needing more pop, but it also encourages smaller player to contribute in order to grow their own pop faster
Yea the number could use tweaking forsure, 33% is just what I saw as something easy to present. The dev lower mentionned they don’t want a system that is directly related to the consus you put it tho (and it does make sense when thinking about governed planet)
Yea AFK mechanics def need a look too… kofkof looking at you player pulling 1/3rd of the sci/eng of a player when E rating…
Glad you guys are still looking at it 
I think populous has great potentiel, just feels a bit rough currently! Taking action into governing and taking care of a planet kept me interested int he game!
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I like this idea as I think it provides a good middle point balance. I can see the game balance advantage for sharing, I can see the frustration/realism of not sharing population. This seems to preserve game balance but smooth out the edges enough that is both understandable and fair.
Someone providing all consumables on base (basic and luxuary) should be way more attractive to the workforce then the company only providing DW.
This could maybe also solve the inactive issue? Since those bases usually run out of consumables and would then get what ever is left over from the workforce.
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I am gonna piggy back on my own thread to add another point.
Currently, pop growth seems to be mostly done by open jobs. Keeping them on the planet is mostly done with the infra.
This should give a decent visualization of what I mean. We fed tons to the infra this week (talking around 600-700k probably) to make sure we could grow our tech at maximum speed. 30% more safety and 25% more health/comfort yet happiness barely changes, and we end up with less growth of tech. Hard to tell if the 20% extra culture or the 90 new open jobs on the engineers made the difference for the extra 2… However, this just feels like kind of a waste. Why are we even looking at building infra when we can spend the money on dummy bases just to grow pop?
I would strongly consider relooking at this numbers. No reason to spend on infrastructure that provides very little benefit at this point…
Edit:was told it was averaged over 4 weeks, guess ill try to keep it high for 4 weeks for the results 
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This is still unfair and utter broken. @molp
Please read what Carepanda said : only Unemployed and growth should be redistributed. STOP redistributing people’s workforce because someone can pay 100 people to spam a planet with buildings.
Reason is simple : I grow population with my corp on a planet for months and then some group of players decide we’re having too much fun and spam open jobs to the point of your formulas creating utter disaster.
STOP reassigning already assigned workers. If you do this then it will force people to expand carefully and reasonably ( why would a player that struggled to grow population for months lose his workforce? )
A system that emphasize worker redistribution from unemployment and growth is actually a long term strategic system that would force players to plan ( supply popi, invest, open jobs and be patient etc ) rather than just building spam before next popr.
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And just so that I understand please : why is workforce redistribution from active players needed? What is the rationale behind this because I fail to understand it.
Thanks.
I think a short term solution is everyone especially big players contribute more to POPI. That would help short term
Carepanda’s idea seems idea seems most reasonable. When I started in PrUn I did not know about this redistribution feature. I have no idea why redistribution of workers in active jobs would be forcibly removed when all their basic needs are fully met. I thought that as long as I provided all their basic consumption items in stock they would continue working.
It makes sense that workers without their basic needs met would have a chance of quitting their job to go elsewhere - perhaps after two weeks of unsatisfactory working conditions.
Do the workers not get redistributed if all basic and luxury goods are on-hand? If not, then that would be an essential quality of life improvement of high priority.
You think what people say in a 6 active player planetary chat is “publicly”.
You think what people “say” makes them selfish? I thought it was all about how they ACT!
Think your bearings are off bud, as is your sense of justice. We figured that out when you failed to apologize after throwing unfounded accusations based on pure speculations and yet again instead of constructive talk you throw your judgement on how you “might” get inconvenienced from something I said, but at same time fail to mention I am the one inconvenienced and will likely lose 25% of eng/sci on my only eng/sci planet.
But please keep making such relevant unrelated remarks because you “might” get “inconvenienced” and I am the selfish one.
When you were in my situation you filled 10 chat long pages with vile insults and personal attacks.
Anything else you’d like to share from chats I did not consent to be made public or some other unrelated sources?
Here’s some of your public chats in Apoth local :
And your unfounded accusation proved wrong and you continued and continue with your vile propaganda and toxic behavior in chats against GDP/QWNE. If I had a report button I would report you for toxic behaviour.
ah yes I too crop convos just to show the bad out of it
I dont see myself saying I want to go steal someone’s pop in any of these unlike you, after publicly saying you are against it! I could google it, but sounds like pretty much the definition of selfish. Or only agree if its your advantage.
Keep that image up boyo! I am sure everyone on the internet cares!
I was trolling in planetary chat to provoke a reaction and prove you financed and encouraged thab to colonize and steal our scientists and engineers. I guess my trolling was passive in chat while yours was sabotage, especially when you came on FORUM with it to make it publicly 
Selfish is when you DO things without consideration for others. Like :
- accusing people without proof and causing reputation and emotional damage.
- financing your friend to sabotage our hi-tech planet then linking my reaction on forum to discredit me.
I didn’t steal a single pop from you. Your friend did. I didn’t insult and violently attack you or your friends without proof, you did. You also attacked other GDP and QWNE members.
Ultimately I advocated against the mechanic of reassigning workers being unfair and broken and didn’t discuss the morality color of population stealing or those who do it or don’t.
The game is in test, it will reset soon and I eventually welcomed thab on our planet even if we lost ~18% efficiency for it.
You have 5-6 planets where you draw engineer/scientists while I have one and share them with your friend but you come and call me selfish at the mere thought that I would pull for a building on one of your planets?
You don’t need google to find what selfish means, you need a mirror.
Anyway, this topic is probably about POPI improvements and not about your personal vendettas. And for the record, I really never cared about your workers and never will, I don’t go that low.
@Madnewmy I understand that you are frustrated, however, you must refrain from personal attacks and toxic chat.
Its disappointing to see that you were witness to the hostility and toxicity around CUOP, were witness to @molp posting RE: toxicity around CUOP and still see fit to engage in ad-hominin attacks.
You are one of the most wealthy players in PrUn. New players look up to you, and you are setting a poor example.
Please reconsider the way in which you interact with other players.
I want to clear up why and how I got to CR-409b so there is no misunderstanding.
I wasn’t funded or encouraged by Mad, or any other player. I make my own fabs on Hort C, and I make most inputs myself also (AL, TI, STL, NR, EPO, PG). I never hold more than 500k as I invest money as it comes in. In addition, I was awarded 1 mil form Catfiz which helped A LOT.
Why 409b? It’s close to Prom and Hort C, it has decent pop, and most importantly, it had Manuf COGC for my SPF (now changed to Electronics).
Why not the other options? Well, there are not many planets with the necessary population and honestly if I had to choose from whom I needed to steal, QWNE seemed the least worse option to me. Again, why?
- Aldin already had +1 new Ship while mhk +2 new Ships.
- My only Eng base got its pop divided to incoming QWNE member
- Mad & CP have always been helpful to me.
Past all this, I agree that the current distribution of Population is broken, and for me as a mid-sized player, this shows that its horrible as well.
lmao now that its posted publicly its just trolling 
Thab worked way more with QWNE than he did with me lol, I didnt ask him anything. But seeing the reaction I am glad he did to see your pesky lying little two-faced coming out again!
Edit: he was more than welcome to come over to our planets, it’s not like we didn’t accomodate for other people coming over before, wether they were welcome or not 
lmao now that its posted publicly its just trolling
I was teasing / trolling. If I wanted to colonize, I would have. Why isn’t this obvious?
it’s not like we didn’t accomodate for other people coming over before, wether they were welcome or not
Yeah, we saw first hand how you accommodate new joiners. Fluffy only if they are useful or haul your cargo, vote how you need on CoGC…
Better they not stray from the righteous path !
seeing the reaction I am glad he did to see your pesky lying little two-faced coming out again!
With thab we reconciled. I didn’t come with this “fiasco” on forum, you did 
You can pat yourself on the back that you did him a favor.
Edit : I’ll have to step out on this chain of conversations, you learned nothing and see only what you want to see.